Saturday, November 28, 2009

The GST next and what after the GST?

In marketing there is a term referred to as the "greed factor." This is what marketeers drive (the greed factor) in order to a entice their target customers, and the people usually targeted when it comes to fast moving consumer items is what Malaysian product managers refer to as the "Aunties," the middle aged and older housewives, especially those who are at liberty to spend the fortunes of their husbands.

Now our politicians are no exception, they have their, "aunty aunty" all at home as well, and from very humble beginnings after their spouses enter politics either in the State assemblies or Parliament they have huge disposable incomes and as a reuls these "auntie auntie" become the biggest the biggest spenders of all time in Malaysia.

The bad part of course is most of the time they do not spend their own money but rather the money of the rakyat, gained by all dubious means, and this is in essential income for this breed "aunty aunty."

I have heard of one "Big Auntie" not that she is tall and fat, but she is rather short and a quite a bit weighty especially along an below the waist and has a rather 'Botoxed' face who is the queen of big spenders. On a private trip to a countr yin the far East she even asked her host " bila nak pergi shopping?" as she got bored of all the vistis to "places of Interest."

A Menteri Besar is being investigated for allegedly having moved 10 million ringgit to London via a moneylender. Bank Negara is believed to be probing this Menteri Besar. the national bank has foundit fit to probe the Menteri Besar, however the MACC is rather silent about it.

The irony of the whole issue is that the MACC jumped into aaction on a mere allegation of an unidentified person on a blog, to detain and question the Selangor State Government which is a Pakatan Government, and has remained quiet on an allegation made by a Member of Parliament in Parliament about this Barisan Nasional Chief Minister an done can only draw the conclusion that this was done because he is from the same party as that which forms the Government of the country.

This clearly shows how this government itself is involved in corruption, the coffers must be running dry, the avenues to make such money are becoming scarce and is the the reason why they need to tax the rakyat by implementing the GST?

There is a huge attempt to cover up the PKFZ scandal, the very fact that the PM has decided to handle the affair is already reason to believe that this issue is bound to be covered up.

Almost all Malaysians know the persons concerned in this scandal, most Malaysians also know that the third force in the MCA's recent EGM was maneuvered by persons involved in the PKFZ scandal and it was a desperate and deliberate attempt to cover up the scandal. The MCA being the second largest partner of the Barisan the PM has decided to go and handle this scandal so that he can keep the crooks safe from exposure and prosecution and save UMNO and the BN all the embarrassment.

Issues about this scandal an how the government lied when it pleaded ignorance about aspects of this scandal were proven to be untrue when the minutes of an earlier cabinet meeting showed that the cabinet was fully aware of all that was happening only goes to show that this government is corrupt and will go to any length to protect the corrupt. So much so when the cabinet minutes surfaced the PM who denied knowing the facts and was present at the said cabinet meeting, instead of apologizing to the people, threatened to get the police to arrest those responsible under the Official Secrets Act.

One wonders if the Altantuya case will now be classified under the Official Secrets Act.


How on earth did the Negeri MB come into 10 million ringgit is a huge question. What on earth happened to the billions, beginning with the BMF scandal, where the then PM was offended with the then Auditor General for questioning his wife, regarding certain issues regarding that BMF scandal, and one wonders why he got angry if he was not involved?

Where did the millions that belonged to the association of the wives of the Selangor State Assemblymen go to. Why was Khir Toyo not investigated for the millions he spend to get to Disneyland? What happened to the millions he spent to build a house? Why is the Federal government preventing the State Government of Selangor from declassifying documents that were marked official secrets, when these so called secrets will in fact benefit the rakyat who have been misled by the authorities? What happened to the late railways gate keeper turned millionaire, by joinin gUMNO and the BN?

What happened when the Idxxt Mahathir Mohammed tried to corner the world tin market,and not only got his nose bloodied, but lost millions of Malaysian Ringgit that was not his, how was that concealed. His stupid actions caused the collapse of the tin market and forced industry to look to other alternatives and the demise of our Tin industry. That move of his, as the head of the BN and the head of UMNO then led to the troubles in Perak today.What used to be the richest state in Malaysia is now almost the poorest. Zambry should take on Mahathir to get compensation for the state, but he won't after all they are both not Malays, they are Indians masquerading as Malays.


What happened to the millions that went into individual pockets by way of the lucrative timber market where timber concessions were given to all an sundry in the BN. Unprecedented and unwarranted extraction of timber, the rape of the land, is contributing not only to climate change, but to world wide lobbies now to boycott our Oil Palm, and worst still to what looks like the extinction of an ethnic Malaysian race - The Penans.

There are the bailouts of so called Bumi Companies including some which belong to the sons of Mahathir Mohammed, the PKFZ scandal, and so much more than we can ever imagine that that if all this is checked and not allowed to happen we woudl not have to look at a GST to keep this country afloat.

We shall get to pay GST, that is the cost of our indifference, that is for sure, that is on top of the Income tax we already pay, that is on top of the import tax we already pay, that is on top of excise duty that we pay on cars,and that is a considerable sum, that is on top of all the other duties levied on goods, and we shall pay them.

This draws my attention to a letter that was once circulated claiming that at a famous fast food outlet the Malay clientele were not charged service tax whilst the non Malays had to pay for it, is there a similar modus operandi in place?

I hope the Government levies more taxes, on the citizens, that will be the essential catalyst we need to knock UMNO out.

Tuesday, September 29, 2009

Appeals court upholds Malaysia woman’s caning for drinking beer

A Malaysian First, a Najib first, an UMNO first.

Posted: 05:44 AM ET

(CNN) — An appeals court has upheld the caning sentence of a Malaysian woman for drinking beer in public.

The Sharia, or Islamic, court did not set a date for the flogging, the Bernama national news agency said Tuesday.

If carried out, Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno will become the first woman to be flogged in the southeast Asian country for drinking alcohol out in the open.
Kartika has said all along that she wants the sentence to be carried out, even as the country’s new Prime Minister Najib Razak asked her not to willingly accept it.

The case was automatically sent up for an appeal. The court made its ruling Monday, Bernama said.

Kartika was scheduled to undergo the caning in late August, but Malaysian authorities abruptly postponed it until the end of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

Her case — which stems from a 2007 incident in which she publicly drank a beer — has attracted international media attention. There are concerns that if the sentence is carried out, it could tarnish the image of the moderate Muslim nation.

Najib, the prime minister, said the government could not question religious matters because they are under the authority of the Syariah (Sharia) Court.
Malaysia has a dual-track justice system, in which Islamic courts operate alongside civil courts.

An Islamic, or sharia, court in the eastern state of Pahang had fined Kartika — a Muslim — $1,400 (5,000 Malaysian ringgit) and sentenced her to six strokes with a rattan cane for drinking at a hotel bar two years ago.

Kartika, a 32-year-old part-time model and mother of two, was visiting Malaysia from Singapore at the time.

She pleaded guilty, paid the fine, and wanted her caning to be carried out in public.

She said she lost her job as a nurse in Singapore and took up part-time modeling to support her husband in raising their two children. Her son has cerebral palsy; her daughter a heart condition.

Muslims — who make up about 60 percent of the 28 million who populate the country — are forbidden from consuming alcohol. Other religious groups are exempt.

Sunday, September 13, 2009

Time for the Tamils to break loose

"The Naan Tamilan nee Tamilan attitude has to be discarded now!!!"

Yes it is time for the Tamils to break loose, break loose from the shackles of MIC and the many Indian politicians who claim to represent the "Indian Cause" including HINDRAF and it's Hindu Rights Party.

The  "Indian cause" these people talk about is in India maybe but not here and no one in this country really represents that cause for the good of the Tamils.

If there is a Tamil cause it is the cause of one individual or another who uses it and for some of the  Tamils who support him for his own cause.

The real Tamil cause in this country is to be less Tamil (Indian), and be more Malaysian.

When a Malay uses the work keling it is taboo to all Tamils, I realise the Malay will not tolerate anyone saying something about his race, it is taboo and he will not have it, the entire race will not have it.

The Malaysian Tamil has to go to other countries where Indians have gone to in similar circumstances as they were in Malaysia and see the difference.

The Trinidadian Indians are not afraid to own up to their indentured labour status, they say it with pride, because from those beginnings they evolved into a force in that country made up of Europeans, Syrians, Chinese and Africans, they play a major role in the economy and government of that country, they never looked inward they were Trinidadians first and last, they are proud of their heritage but ask them what they are and they'll say it loud, "Trinidadians."

Take a look at the South African Indian, who was subjected to apartheid rule, he does not know his roots, he'll tell you maybe Madras, he's not really sure, it does not matter anymore, because as far as he is concerned he is African. there are the Fijians, the East Africans, the Hong Kong Indian community, the communities of Indians in other parts of the world who have pride of place, they do not see themselves as Indians first,  and those who do not make it are those who'd still cling on to their roots, and if you are one such person go back, go back to India.

The Malaysian Tamil has to be more Malaysian and less Tamil, more Malaysian and he must integrate. To do so he has to shun the Tamil School that is the root of Indian marginalization, it is there plainly because it serves the interests of the Indian politician, the Samy Veloos, the Subramanaims and the Uthaykumars, without it these people have absolutely no power, it is because there are Tamil schools that issues of marginalization arise and the Indian politician thrives at the expense of the Tamil educated Indian in Malaysia.

Tamil schools in this country lack the excellence,  the underprivileged Tamil school student requires to be  pulled  out of the doldrums. It is bad enough that these children come from very difficult backgrounds, their parents most of whom do not even understand what good education is all about have hardly any time to focus on eduction as bringing food to the table for these underprivileged children is the priority.

This is the breeding ground of Indian politics, this is the advantage the Indian politician sees to enrich himself, the middle class Indian who enters the fray with a sincere intention to serve is fast side tracked with some land grant, or some other material incentive and his direction immediately changes, he gets sucked into the web of the opportunists, or he moves out and wants nothing to do with the system.

The answer lies in getting rid of Tamil schools, teach Tamil as a language in schools where there is a sizeable Tamil student population, or take Tamil language classes elsewhere if the Tamils are really keen on their children learning the language in preference to everything else, take a lesson from the Sikhs, they teach their children Punjabi.

Finish the Tamil schools, and finish the MIC and other Tamil based political parties and the Tamils will be far better off being Malaysian first and Tamil second with the "Naan Malaysian nee Malaysian" attitude.

We are on the road to a great victory!!!

MIC &MCA to nail the BN coffin.

If this BN Government thinks it has intimidated us and is winning the psychological war against the PR governments wa it had better think again.

MIC's Samy Velu sweep is a step in the right direction, it is now abundantly clear that with the little band of stooges that Samy has in the MIC he can never win, Subra's defeat is a victory for the people, all UMNO puppets need to be put in the closet, and the entire group of BN parties are nothing more then UMNO puppets. The puppet show is failing to attract the crowds it once did.

The Malays see through UMNO now, the billions made by the top UMNO brass is only enriching the UMNOPUTERAS and not the ordinary Malay. UMNO top brass are becoming billionaires at the expense of the ordinary Malay, what was supposed to be channeled to them via the NEP was stolen from right under their noses and placed in the pockets of the UMNOPUTERAS.

That will explain why the sons of Mahathir, Tun Razak, Hussein Onn and the son in law of Abdullah Badawi are still on the top part of the UMNO hierarchy, so this plunder in the name of 'Malay rights' can continue unabated, and the poor Malay told all kinds of stories about other races threatening his survival.

It is the same story with he Indians and the Chinese, UMNO has allowed the Malay to think that all Chinese are rich, and are getting richer at the expense of the Malay, and that is the furthest thing from the truth that one can imagine, the MCA tells the Chinese they'll loose all their rights and privileges unless the MCA is present in government and that too is a blatant lie, MIC of course has the biggest Champion Samy Velu who keeps the Tamils ill informed by his classic "Tamil Schools education programme,' set up by the British to propagate Indian labour, and now the tool of the MIC.

This is the reason UMNO has a big stake in the MCA game, Ong Te Kiat will expose a huge scheme to enrich MCA heads and this is not good for UMNO, the secrets of its greatest attraction in the puppet show will be made public and that will kill the entire show, so after all these years and after all the noise, the Police have got int the act of investigating the PKFZ scandal, and we know what the Malaysian Police are capable of. I am sure Detective Bala is still fresh in our minds, and we all know only too well who carried out that operation, I am told there is a movie being made in India called the, "Missing Witness," and Detective Bala has agreed to tell his story, and it is to be made with some of the great Indian and Indonesian actors and actresses. The Indians because they have got fed up with the 'Cow incident', and the Indonesians they have made no secret of their ill feelings with this UMNO led BN government.

The detective Bala story has already been written by a famous Malaysan blogger, and the script has been sent to India for editing.

Will PKFZ files go missing, will questions be left unanswered, the current investigation is not over and the Police have taken over, will evidence before the present investigators be taken away so that some MCA bigwigs of yesteryears are allowed to keep their loot. Ong Tee Kiat is an embattled MCA head, he really is and he may not last the test of time, he is not in the interest of UMNO.

The sudden twist in the temple fiasco created by UMNO men in Shah Alam whre they are now being charged is only to draw the Indian and Chinese vote in Bagan Pinang, there the total Chinese and Indian vote outnumbers the Malay vote, and to attract the entire Malay vote an outcast of UMNO is being considered, and he in turn want's his son to be nominated. Remember what I said earlier abou the children of Mahathir, Tun Razak and Hussein Onn? now at the state level we see the MBs playing the same game, its called nepotism, in Malay Umnocracy.

The current BN government has decided to only come out and whack the Pakatan Rakyat Governments black and blue and in the process ( I must agree with Samy Velu on this score) are creating all the problems for the MCA, the MIC ad the Gerakan.

Go Najib go, at the rate you are going and with idiots at the helm, a Toyol, some idiots who probably bought their law degrees, or who were given the degrees so they'd get out of England, and hold high positions in your cabinet will help our cause.

Najib Tun Razak has begun the campaign called, "UMNO self destruct," and on that score we will have to support him.

In passing Children's day is soon approaching, what on earth happened to the Pingat Hang Tuah. The medal of valor given to a Malaysian child each year recognizing him as a the "Child Hero of the year."

Hang Tuah the Chinese hero of the Malays, has suddenly disappeared, disappeared because UMNO suddenly found out he was a Chinese and that fact does not fit in its puppet show.

Toffee

Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Uighur, UMNO Afraid of China?

ئۇيغۇر


UMNO NEEDS TO STATE ITS STAND
The issue of the Uighur homeland, Turkestan is an older issue than the Palestinian problem, it spans centuries, why isn't UMNO making a firm stand? Are they afraid of the Chinese Government, or have they become slavishly beholden to this country.

Have they - UMNO, compromised our independence by some of their actions? Remember that even before Najib visited China recently to reenact his fathers visit to China, ( that was his his father's bid to mend relations with the Malaysian Chinese for his major role as the architect of May 13 1969, which was then and now no secret with the Chinese>. Remember Altantuya's transit Immigration records between Mongolia, China and Malaysia went missing too. Was this a formal arrangement? Did that arrangement compromise our independence, if that was a compromise with Najib than surely our independence has been compromised.


What you see above is the flag of Uighurs, a Turkic people from Eastern Turkestan today called Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region under the rule of the Peoples Republic of China.

The territory was renamed Xinjiang (which means "new territory" in Mandarin ), soon after invasion of the Dzungars by the Chinese of the Qing dynasty. An estimated one million people were butchered and the land so laid to waste that it took almost whole generation to recover from the savageries of this brutal attack.

In 1920, nationalists Uighurs had already began their struggle against the post Qing warlords controlling Sinkiang. The Turpanese poet Abdulhaliq, having spent his early years in Semey and the Jadid intellectual centres in Uzbekistan, returned to Sinkiang with a pseudonym that he later styled as a surname Uighur. He wrote the famous nationalist poem Oyghan, which opened with the line, "Hey poor Uighur, wake up!". He was later murdered by the Chinese warlord Sehng Shichai in Turpan in March, 1933 for inciting Uighur nationalism through his works.

Uighur independence activists staged several uprisings against post Qing and Koumintang rule, and in 1933 and 1944, the Uighur successfully regained their independence twice and proclaimed the East Turkestan Republic.

In 1949, after the Chinese Nationalists lost the civil war in China, East Turkestan’s rulers did not agree to join The Communist Peoples Republic of China, led by Mao Dze Dong.

A plane crash planned by the communist Chinese killed most of the East Turkestan’s supreme leadership (reminds me of a similar incident many years later in Sabah which killed Fuad Stephens), almost immediately the Chinese then marched on East Turkestan, supressed the East Turkestan army and after stiff resistance conquered the territory, reestablished the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region and appointed the East Turkestan under secretary Saipidin Eziz the first Governor.What remained of the East Turkestan army was 'absorbed' into the Peoples Liberation Army and the government officials of East Turkestan subsequently 'absorbed' into the Chinese Communist party (CCP).

Although concessions were made by the CCP many loyalists fled to Turkey and other Western countries from where they staged anti-CCP activities in an effort to restore their independence, this effort continues to this day.


The people of Eastern Turkestan are the Palestinians of China, they are Muslims as well, some of them have been here to Malaysia, some of them may have event spoken to UMNO members, I am certain some of them have studied with Malaysians overseas and have told their story, they do not look like the Chinese, and today they are considered to be Chinese by the Chinese Government to legitimise their occupation.

They Uighurs are demanding their independence, taken away from them in 1949 by Mao and the CCP, instead, the Chinese Communist Government is sending huge numbers of ethnic Han Chinese into the region to neutralize this independence struggle. The Uighur are desperate, they seek support of all nations, more then 250 of their men have been arrested at the onset of Ramadan this year after the recent unrest in the region, to be tried by Chinese courts, the question now asked of Najib and the Malaysian Government is; What is our stand, why have you been so quiet, these people have been suppressed for centuries by the Chinese, theirs is not an issue as new as the Palestinians, why is it their struggles are being overlooked, is it because this Government is afraid of the Peoples Republic of China, or is it there is too much to gain economically? Or are we dictated at by other nations?

This UMNO led government can't adopt double standards, they have to come out in the open and state their stand, and looking at the history of this land there can only be one, and it has to be loud and clear, our unconditional support for the Uighur homeland and Independence, even if it means it has to be carried to the UN, by us. Malaysia can lead this via the OIC.

Why have we remained silent for so long? Najib must make public this stand.
Are we afraid of the Chinese? Has our independence been compromised?
MERDEKA!!! MERDEKA!!!! MERDEKA!!!!!!!

Toffee

Thursday, August 20, 2009

The Teoh Beng Hock inquest letter?

Is this the letter handed by Gobind Singh Deo to the court? Take a look.

Anything that is Public domain is no longer a secret, this letter is on many blogs, I think we should all know its contents. Click on the link below.

The Mystery Letter from MACC officers


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Wednesday, August 19, 2009

Watch the "Royal Malaysian Police" in action

"President of Unity Party WA to Najib Tun Razak":

BY Anonymous


Special privileges (CISO) for the umnoisation in Peninsular Malaysia cover four items only: Malay representation in the Civil service; intake into institutions of higher learning; scholarships; and opportunities in business. Nowhere is it stated that these four areas are only for the Malays of Peninsular Malaysia. Other items concerning the Malays are covered by the Federal Constitution. The Malays of Sabah and Sarawak and other Natives are not entitled to Special Privileges. Their rights are protected by the King under the Federal Constitution.If Anwar Ibrahim is a traitor to the Malays, as claimed by Umno, how did he betray them?

As PM, Mahathir was noted for his UMNOisation policy. He believed that everything in Malaysia should be run by his bunch of UMNO elite and the others reduced to irrelevance. That’s why he started the Buy British Last and Look East policies i.e. to replace the Chinese role in Malaysia with the Japanese provided they helped the Malays to replace the Chinese role in Malaysia. It has nothing to do with imbibing Japanese work ethics. However, the Japanese were not interested in screwing up anybody especially the Chinese who they felt worked hard for their living. Besides, the Japanese themselves were not interested in helping the Malays for various reasons.


According to Penang Chief Minister 2 Professor Ramasamy’s Phd thesis, it was Mahathir who advised the civil service to throw away the application forms of non-Malays. The result is that 90 per cent of the civil service today is Malay.

What the Umnoputras have today is way above what has been provided for by the Special Privileges for the Malays and that's because of Mahathir.

The Police Force used to have a lot of Indian officers. Mahathir got rid of all of them.

True, Mahathir did not disturb the Indians like Badawi who presided over the demolishment of Hindu temples etc. Mahathir just ignored the Indians and took away whatever little they had and gave it to the Umnoputeras. It was easier for the Umnoputeras to grab from the Indians than from the Chinese. It became even more difficult after the Look East Policy failed and the Chinese business community reduced the NEP to Ali Babaism. Mahathir resigned a very disappointed man because he could not help the Malays (or rather his group) replace the Chinese role in business. All the Umnoputeras he helped in business eventually went bankrupt and things would have been even worse if he had not set up Danaharta after kicking out Anwar whom he felt was a stumbling block to his grandiose plans. Mahathir cares two hoots about Anwar’s sexual preferences, if any.
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The only relationship that Mahathir has had with an Indian was with Samy Vellu.

Thursday, August 13, 2009

The poll time to act

93.3% do not read the NST, only a mere 2.9 percent read the paper.


Yes the poll is over, this blog has an estimated estimated 773 readers, of this 105 or 13.6percent responded to this survey.

Of the 105 who responded , 3 readers or 2.9 percent of respondents say they still read the New Straits Times; (What an achievement for the NST)
of the remaining votes 102 votes, 90 readers of this blog, or 85.7 percent say they do not read the paper;
that leaves a balance of 12 votes and of this 4 readers or 3.8 percent are thinking of stopping their subscription;
and of the remaining 8 readers or 7.6 percent of the voters ask the question, "The New Straits What?" indicating that they are totally disgusted with the paper.

The New Straits Times must be very proud of its accomplishments, this paper in the days it was the 'Straits Times' was the leading and most authoritative voice in this country, has now under the direction of its present editorial management successfully dwindled the readership so low that people feel its better not to advertise in it, lets do them a favour help them shut down permanently.

In the days of the "Straits Times" its headlines used to include the views of opposition leaders, the late Seenivasagam brothers, Dr. Tan Chee Khoon, Ahmad Boestaman, Karam Singh and in full and the context in which they said it, including the views of Lee Kuan Yew who was at one time on the opposition bench of our Parliament.

This newspaper the NST which claims to be the successor of the Straits Times is nothing better than trash, a kind of "UMNO mad magazine," which lacks substance and takes the rakyat to be fools, now the rakyat will take it back on them. The advertising pages will tell the story.

"A worthy successor of the Straits Times?" A sucker to UMNO more like it. What utter rubbish, "worthy successor!" Rubbish is trash.

This blog says "STOP READING" Trash, trash belongs in the rubbish bins, let the paper die a sudden death, a natural death sometimes takes too long we can make it sudden, read anything else but the NST.

This will send an unequivocal message to the other dailies to give us news with integrity, especially political news, if it is not there we shall continue with the next paper, this will open the front for web based papers and many people with the cash will start just that, on top of that you may not need a KDN permit to publish it, that will be good for real journalism and good and respectable reports to read every morning.

Operation "Sudden Death."

Use what you have at your disposal, the 'SMS,' the internet, the phone, or as you meet your friends tell them "I've stopped reading the NST," then ask them "have you?" The 'SMS' text should read, "I've stopped reading the NST, have you?"


All respondents use the net, all are from the English medium and the only logical conclusion is they know the New Straits Times and of this according to the sample 93.3 percent (includes those who ask New Straits what?) have categorically said in one way or another that they do not read the paper. The NST is on a limp the

We have to stop papers that propagate lies, let's begin with the NST, we need to win back the integrity of information in this country, we should stop useless UMNO propaganda, we have to restore the integrity of the Malaysian government, it has been seen to be compromising, because the corrupt can't possibly catch the corrupt without exposing themselves, and with this weak and corrupt leadership that is all one can expect, and this press by its stance seems to support this effort.

We have to target the machinery they use to undermine the people, and paralyze it, we can make the NST and economically nonviable unit.

Please pass this message on, go on the net, go on your phone and it should read, "I have stopped reading the NST, have you? " And if they need know why send them another message, tell them to visit this blog.

Let it begin.

Sunday, August 9, 2009

TAKE THE NST SURVEY ON THE LEFT OF THIS PAGE

Survey topic
Have you stopped reading the New Straits Times?


The survey is on the left of this page.

For the next five days I shall be sending out reminders for you to participate in this survey.

Please get your friends to join in this survey, we need to know how good this paper the NST is, maybe even this paper needs to know .

Sometimes Managing editors do not have a clue.

Need as many people as possible to take this survey.

We could probably extend a copy of the results of this survey to the "NST" too.

Toffee